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匿名  发表于 2011-5-4 07:29:25

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250:
本人原本是顶好的忠实客户,但由于家住北边,现在多数时间光顾北边的几家超市。这里,倒是善意提醒顶好,要想保持顾客,一定要增加新特点,我们大老远的去,总应该看到一些不一样。
250,你说托,五毛,我只好说你是J八毛的变种。

说的没错,如果所买东西已经变质,把顶好告到州里的消费者管理处,要求巨额罚款。

250, 我没有仔细看,在这个频道里真有人要求给顶好道歉吗?还是你自己看串行啦。
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匿名  发表于 2011-5-4 09:16:53
有些人顶商家不一定是因为他们与商家有什么直接利益关系,而是因为这些人还受奴性思维的影响:当个人与机构(包括商家,学校,政府等等),他们习惯性的总是要维护机构的利益。中国大多数受的是个人服从集体的教育。做事要维护集体的荣誉,不能让集体丢脸。。。。而很少考虑到个人的利益。在中国早些时候,“个人利益”就像英文里的“4-LETTER WORD”,是自私自利的同义词。

像前面有几个人的贴,就很明显体现出这种思维的痕迹。“先和商家先交涉一下”啦,“维权目的达到就好”啦,连提个建议还毕恭毕敬的“善意提醒”,好象那超市老板是他工作单位的党支部书记,明明是提个让他赚更多钱的建议还怕得罪了领导,与封建社会时忠臣“冒死上谏”有一比。

而美国这里的思维方式,是商家,学校,政府这些机构是为个人服务的。商家卖了可疑食品,美国人首先考虑的是几百几千消费者的健康和安全,而不是一个老板的生意会不会受影响。你如果不贴上来,他顶多是来一个人,退一个货,转手就把那东西放回货架上了。所以贴上168对广大消费者都有好处。不仅如此,与有些人想努力维护商家名声的出发点相反,美国的做法是有意那个商家臭名昭著。只有让不道德商家意识到他如果做违法或不道德生意,其后果严重,才能改变其做法。这是为什么美国商家比中国商家老实的原因之一。

为什么美国人可以要求高质量食品和高质量服务,中国人不能?中国人低人一等吗?
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匿名  发表于 2011-5-4 09:32:16
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During your lifetime, whether in business or personally you may be in a place where you experience conflict.  Not everyone is going to like you or get along with you. Inevitably, being human, you might have a different opinion than someone else.  This is when Mind Mastery comes into play in a big way.  If you have learned how to ‘Tame that Tiger” within your head, if any kind of conflict does happen you will know that the best way to handle it is with a level head so you can avoid being stressed to the gill!
Handling conflict does not have to be confrontational in the classic sense. When someone mentions some kind of altercation you might start thinking, I don’t need this” “I don’t want to deal with it” however, you also know it needs to be dealt with.   Coming to a meeting ready to prove you are right is not the best way to handle a conflict because ultimately it leads to arguing and one person wanting the last word and control.
Conflicts can occur at any time. You might be in a store and the cashier may be rude while they ring up your sale. We’ve all had that happen at least once, right? The first reaction might be to slam the money on the counter or to snap back at them. In that instant we have taken their problems as our own and created a stressful situation that can change the tone of the rest of our day. However, this only happens if we allow it.
These five tips work for coworkers, family members, friends, and even strangers. You never know when the proper response to a conflict could save you or someone else from having lots of stress.
1. Decide in advance how you intend to deal with any kind of conflict or disagreement that comes up.
Sometimes we are quick to respond when someone says something we don’t like or don’t agree with.  If you’ve given this some thought in advance and have been mastering your thinking you will know you don’t have to get defensive or jump down the other person’s throat!  First take a deep breath before responding.   In that few seconds think about the words that were said so you can answer calmly without getting angry or defensive.
2. In many cases, the conflict that comes up is not the first of its kind.
Harsh or offensive words might be a recurring theme in the relationship. Decide if this connection is worth holding on to or if it’s time to let go of the relationship. This could result in a lost friendship, a divorce, or changing jobs.  Sometimes, for your own sake, this decision is better in the long run than staying in an unhealthy relationship that causes stress for you.
3.  You don’t have to respond right then.
You can always say “I need to think about that, let me give you the answer later.” Give yourself time to talk over the situation with a trusted friend. Maybe you took what was said the wrong way. Sometimes, a third party can see something that you missed in the heat of your anger. Be big enough to apologize where necessary. If the consensus is that you were wronged then bring the matter to the attention of the other person with a level head and non-attacking kind of words.
4.  A common conflict, especially among spouses could result from wanting to buy something when there really isn’t enough money. Instead of brooding think about it and see if you can come up with favorable solutions that, if it’s important, could get you what you want or need.  If it’s something big, maybe you would need to make some money by selling something or even getting a second job.
5.  Just because something is true doesn’t mean it has to be said. Telling someone that they are wearing a dress that is too small for them is not a positive way to help them lose weight. Understand how it could be offensive to them and apologize. Better yet, stop and think before you respond in situations such as these. Put yourself in the other person’s shoes. Part of resolving conflicts is realizing your role in it and how you can if you wish have the power not to get sucked in to something that could turn into chaos.
Facing confrontational situations can be challenging. However, it is not inevitable and sometimes it’s necessary to face what you’d rather forget. One of the best things I learned over the years if there’s a disagreement is to say “I don’t think I agree with you but you could of course be right!”  Generally this will stop the conflict from going any further.
Learning conflict resolution techniques is all about mastering how you think in advance so you can alleviate the stress of these situations.
P.S. You’re welcome to use this article on your website, blog or in your ezine if you include this entire blurb without modification. : If you liked this article and would like more comprehensive Mind Mastery and business building strategies, articles and resources hop over to www.yourstairwaytowealth.com   Hazel Palache, a Mind Mastery and Business Mentor and the founder of Your Stairway To Wealth teaches women entrepreneurs how to master their mindset, to stop procrastinating and conquer overwhelm so they can claim the ultimate wealth they desire by building a sustainable business with integrity.
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匿名  发表于 2011-5-4 10:15:53
82楼有病乱吃药。他贴的文章里的CONFLICT(冲突)主要是指同事,朋友,亲人等等多少有些平等关系共同利益关系长期共处关系的,而且不涉及违法违约,或不道德的行为。这些关系的双方有冲突时,经常是没有谁对谁错,双方的利益交叠,有时没有清楚界限,都要妥协,需要好好商量,不能硬来,这是显而易见的。

而楼主这个例子,是消费者与商家,是一种极其简单的极短期的合同关系。他拿你的真钱你拿他的好货,清清楚楚,完事BYE-BYE,可以老死不相往来。除非他是独此一家,没有必要跟他废话。这次是商家出售三无食品在先,即使不违法,也涉嫌不道德。在某种意义上讲,商家已经违反了合同:你给他的是真钱,他给你的是劣货。现在是让他履行合同的时候了,有什么好废话的?
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匿名  发表于 2011-5-4 10:25:30
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匿名  发表于 2011-5-4 10:30:56
我想再次重申頂好是"累犯慣犯"爾且是對你消費者反應大屌不甩的八股思維.
我個人至少為沒有製造日期&過期品.好聲好氣反應過5次以上.老板給我一個白眼說我們就是沒有製造日期.
更絕的是我還買過5年前就過期的奶酥醬.老板又給我一個白眼說"去看要換什麼"我差點氣暈

不是沒有向店家反應,是店家不把你消費者當人看
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匿名  发表于 2011-5-4 10:36:36

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引用第80楼游客于2011-05-04 07:29发表的 回 79楼(游客) 的帖子 :
250:
本人原本是顶好的忠实客户,但由于家住北边,现在多数时间光顾北边的几家超市。这里,倒是善意提醒顶好,要想保持顾客,一定要增加新特点,我们大老远的去,总应该看到一些不一样。
250,你说托,五毛,我只好说你是J八毛的变种。

说的没错,如果所买东西已经变质,把顶好告到州里的消费者管理处,要求巨额罚款

.......


板上有沒有律師.為華人爭取一下
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匿名  发表于 2011-5-4 10:52:20
引用第85楼游客于2011-05-04 10:30发表的  :
我想再次重申頂好是"累犯慣犯"爾且是對你消費者反應大屌不甩的八股思維.
我個人至少為沒有製造日期&過期品.好聲好氣反應過5次以上.老板給我一個白眼說我們就是沒有製造日期.
更絕的是我還買過5年前就過期的奶酥醬.老板又給我一個白眼說"去看要換什麼"我差點氣暈

不是沒有向店家反應,是店家不把你消費者當人看
有个国际政策叫做“胡萝卜加大棒”。胡萝卜就是奖励,大榜是惩罚。他做的好,给胡萝卜,做的不好,给大棒。

对那种只顾自己赚钱不顾顾客利益的商家你没大棒他是不会理你的。如果他不改进,你给他大棒伺候---找出它几处脏的地方,严重违反法规的地方,给他上报政府管理部门。这种地方肯定不难找出。有些商家就像懒驴:你不打它,它就不走。
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