Zorro: 与老钱商榷：删贴和Due Process

Zorro

引用第18楼stevezhang于2012-10-16 12:56发表的 :

实际上你文章前几段的看法还算公允，到了最后两段，就开始明显地带有个人主观色彩了，不管你承不承认。
请看最后两段文字：

“实际上，我个人认为喇叭花第一篇里最后一段含有个人侮辱的文字很卑鄙，我认为老郭完全可以根据现有条款来删贴。但是老钱以对等作为删贴理由是不成立的。不仅如此，喇叭花第二篇没有卑鄙的侮辱（大概是删贴起了正面的作用--有时错误的原因也会达到正确的结果，嘿嘿），看上去反而很有理，老钱还要求删就更不对了。 JR!-1tnc   
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“我个人认为”，“我认为”。。。。。不是个人主观色彩是什么？不仅是后面两段，我全文都是个人见解。你认为我前几段公允，大概因为你支持喇叭花，而我那几段在批评老钱。

Exactly, None of us here is important. No matter what we do, the election will be the same results. So let's be more interested in our dirt, not R or O's.

Dr.OlympiaLiu

Reply to 10 lou-Zorro:  I cannot agree with U!
-  Yes, sometimes, the  majority is  not  right.      168 delets posts by his own idea is not right.
-  You said that people against Laoqian from time to time as history reason -- Chinese school?
However,  I have  no any issue with Chinese School.  I don't know who is Chinese teacher or school board.  Also, there are many others, they against Laoqian, because  that Laoqian's political ideas and his bad languages.  
- Now,  is Presidential abate period.   We, majority, want to vote Democracy, Obama,  because of his policy will benefits 99% Americans.   But, Romney's policy is for  1% richer.  We agreed vote Obama.   However, Laoqian considered that Obama is Communism.  LaoQian applied many overtime meals, left overs, no any fresh to eat!

BTW, I should point out your English mistakes.  U wrote:
"is that there are people"  I suggest that should be corrected to: "is that those people..."

(I have never use dictionary in my English type. English is my daily language at work, home & email. U are welcome to  point out my mistakes.)

引用第23楼Dr.OlympiaLiu于2012-10-16 13:31发表的  :
Reply to 10 lou-Zorro:  I cannot agreed with U!
-  Yes, sometimes, the  majority is  not  right.      168 delete posts by his own idea is not right.
-  You said that people against Laoqian from time to time as history reason -- Chinese school?
However,  I have  no any issue with Chinese School.  I don't know who is Chinese teacher or school board.  Also, there are many others, they against Laoqian, because  that Laoqian's political ideas and his bad languages.  
- Now,  is Presidential abate period.   We, majority, want to vote Democracy, Obama,  because of his policy will benefits 99% Americans.   But, Romney's policy is for  1% richer.  We agreed vote Obama.   However, Laoqian considered that Obama is Communism.  LaoQian applied many overtime meals, left overs, no any fresh to eat!
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捅马蜂窝了！

引用第25楼一剪梅于2012-10-16 13:53发表的  :

Result is just result. Debate is just debate. For your information, I happen to get lot of fun from debating the current events than from anybody's dirt here. That's just me. Sorry!

Ok with me.

Dr.OlympiaLiu

Reply:  17lou 杨家勤-居士先生：     
U wrote:  "Again, your are totally wrong again!  So, your post will be deleted soonm" .

1st of all, IP 36 = you, it doesn't matter u relazed or not,  IP 36 is your face.  U always want to personal attack to me!!
U did in the past, that make U lost face.  U want to attack me again.  That is the reason WHY  people said IP36 is U.

BTW,  U control Laoguo,  so, Laoguo deleted Labahua's article under the authority of U!
Laoguo established 168, we love 168, but, but,   -------    U, U, U, U,
U are distrying 168!!!  I think that Laoguo is a nice person, but, he LOST power. He Lost control.  
So, U can delete any post. Because of your power!

大家,扪心自问地想一想：如果我们在这个公共平台上，不是讨论观点，而是批判某个个人，今天一篇《看Dr.Liu的失态》，每天一篇《评一剪梅的狂妄》，后天一篇《评居士的偏激》，《老郭的中庸》，《喇叭花的恶意讥讽》。。。

都像喇叭花，Dr.Liu这样，公开点名批评，批判XXX，还行吗？不管匿名还是署实名，任这种点名批评的风气发展下去，将是怎样一个结局？这些就叫做个人攻击，很容易就变成人身攻击。

喇叭花，Dr.Liu，Zorro，投票，各位，你们愿意看到这种结果吗？如果你们不是诚心来坼台的话。否则，最终，还是老郭要承担后果，承担责任。老郭，作为网主，应该控制管理，有权删除，终止这种混乱局面。

现状就是，老钱一个人认真写文章，一伙人，匿名的，实名的，群起围攻，不讲观点本身，只是攻击个人。

我很赞赏老钱的风度，写我的文章，表达我的观点，就事论事，只议论观点。不议论发表意见的人，不理睬任何攻击。

温和，说理，只论观点的商榷是可以的。老郭应该重申规矩，明确地规定，只许就事论事，讨论观点，不允许攻击个人。

人要有基本的道德，基本的Sense.

过路打酱油的，兼打抱不平

我很赞赏老钱的风度，写我的文章，表达我的观点，就事论事，只议论观点。不议论发表意见的人，不理睬任何攻击。

然后就替天行道删帖子？ 您老应该去北朝鲜，那最河蟹了。

还有，好好教育教育民主，共和两党，为个选举整天互相攻击，太不象话了。。。

Zorro

引用第28楼游客于2012-10-16 14:42发表的 :
大家,扪心自问地想一想：如果我们在这个公共平台上，不是讨论观点，而是批判某个个人，今天一篇《看Dr.Liu的失态》，每天一篇《评一剪梅的狂妄》，后天一篇《评居士的偏激》，《老郭的中庸》，《喇叭花的恶意讥讽》。。。

都像喇叭花，Dr.Liu这样，公开点名批评，批判XXX，还行吗？不管匿名还是署实名，任这种点名批评的风气发展下去，将是怎样一个结局？这些就叫做个人攻击，很容易就变成人身攻击。

喇叭花，Dr.Liu，Zorro，投票，各位，你们愿意看到这种结果吗？如果你们不是诚心来坼台的话。否则，最终，还是老郭要承担后果，承担责任。老郭，作为网主，应该控制管理，有权删除，终止这种混乱局面。
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我很多观点上支持老钱。但与你不一样，我不忌讳指出老钱的错误。我不以人划线，我以具体行为和观点划线。老钱正确的我就支持，错误的就指出。但即使指出其错误，也不是像某人那样说的痛打落水狗，或者人身攻击。我认为如果大家持这种礼貌，公正，而宽容的态度，这种风气发展下去，亚城华人将共同受益。

游客166

引用第28楼游客于2012-10-16 14:42发表的  :
大家,扪心自问地想一想：如果我们在这个公共平台上，不是讨论观点，而是批判某个个人，今天一篇《看Dr.Liu的失态》，每天一篇《评一剪梅的狂妄》，后天一篇《评居士的偏激》，《老郭的中庸》，《喇叭花的恶意讥讽》。。。

都像喇叭花，Dr.Liu这样，公开点名批评，批判XXX，还行吗？不管匿名还是署实名，任这种点名批评的风气发展下去，将是怎样一个结局？这些就叫做个人攻击，很容易就变成人身攻击。

喇叭花，Dr.Liu，Zorro，投票，各位，你们愿意看到这种结果吗？如果你们不是诚心来坼台的话。否则，最终，还是老郭要承担后果，承担责任。老郭，作为网主，应该控制管理，有权删除，终止这种混乱局面。
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IP：*.*.*.36  IP：*.*.*.35 整天都是打酱油的，哈哈哈哈