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老钱:美国大选,选谁?(三) 总统竞选辩论

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匿名  发表于 2012-10-7 13:53:20
引用第42楼游客于2012-10-07 13:30发表的  :
"打个比方,一个信托机构受权管理一笔教育基金。现任的主席,用基金里的钱去买了一辆跑车。家长们,基金主人们来质问。他辩解说,过去历任主席都没有管好,漏洞很多,浪费极大。所以,这一部分钱等于没有了,不存在了。现在,我管好了,省出来一大笔钱。所以,这钱是我的。我爱怎么用都可以。这是什么逻辑?强盗逻辑!混帐逻辑!"

这个比喻,太形象了。

Do you know why many large  company give CEO 10 of millions dollars to manage the company?
because,  if the company goes bankrupt, it will loose billions of dollars. The same theory applied to the foundation.
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匿名  发表于 2012-10-8 12:04:24
When CEO makes 40 times than his employees on average (Japan and Germany) it is called Encourage. When CEO make's 400 times and even increasing every year as in America, is is called Rediculous! There got to be a ballance. You can Encourage a goose to lay eggs, but if you try to kill goose for quicker and more eggs, you are rediculous and you will not get any egg soon.
引用第40楼游客于2012-10-07 09:04发表的  :



The basic economic theory is  "It is production create consumption".  Simple example is: " If a farm not making money by selling his product, he or she will only produce what they can consume themselves. There will be no commerce".

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匿名  发表于 2012-10-8 12:16:01
So if a companies go bankrupt, does a CEO also refund what company paid to him/her?
Now don't you think something is wrong with this picture?
Can you and me sell a very expensive product  with a good promise without being accountable?
Why CEO can? Who's policy is helping them to do such practice?
引用第43楼游客于2012-10-07 13:53发表的  :


Do you know why many large  company give CEO 10 of millions dollars to manage the company?
because,  if the company goes bankrupt, it will loose billions of dollars. The same theory applied to the foundation.

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匿名  发表于 2012-10-8 14:25:18
引用第46楼一剪梅于2012-10-08 13:11发表的  :

DING!!!!!  Excellent point!
The problem with the free run-away CEO pay is that it's not tied to the CEO's performance at all! Same thing with Wall Street big-shots. A lot of their pay/bonus are not tied to their performance. FOr example, the analysts can put out bogus report, rediculous recommendations. And they get high bonus for totally off-mark predications.  

If I put out this kind of performance for my job, I would be fired, with no unemployement benefit, no layoff package, and a huge negative impact to my next job hunting.
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I think we had this argument before.  True, some CEO's pay packages don't reflect their performance.  However, this is their share holders responsibility, not government.  If the majority of the share holders don't care (they do have the right to elect their board thus can approve/disapprove CEO pay packages), what can we do?  Nothing ahd should do nothing.  The share holders are the one going to lose.
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匿名  发表于 2012-10-11 14:58:47
Ding!!! A good commentary. Many thanks to Lao Qian. The comment is very sharp,击中要害. The analysis on OmamaCare is very incisive. I learned. We, Chinese living in US, need to understand the political debate and pewsidential election. Futhermore, we need reasie our voice.
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匿名  发表于 2012-10-11 15:23:07
You need to review what you typed before posting it.
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匿名  发表于 2012-10-11 20:38:47

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DING!!!!!  Excellent point!
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匿名  发表于 2012-10-11 21:17:11
引用第48楼游客于2012-10-11 14:58发表的 :
Ding!!! A good commentary. Many thanks to Lao Qian. The comment is very sharp,击中要害. The analysis on OmamaCare is very incisive. I learned. We, Chinese living in US, need to understand the political debate and pewsidential election. Futhermore, we need reasie our voice.

Both sides - please calm down somehow.  This is NOT a place that you can make another side agree with you!
For all O8 lovers here on 168, someone already told you that - all 16 presidential votes from Georgia will eventually go to R, no matter how hard - all you O8 lovers are kissing him here on 168. So please calm down.  You certainly are entitlied to continue to argue your points here.  But if you really want to help O8, you should move to those "swing states" NOW or talking to your friends living over those swing states.
For those who are not A8 supportors, please enjoy the fact that all of our Georgia 16 votes will go to R, not O8.  And currently, the trend is going R's way.
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匿名  发表于 2012-10-15 13:59:50
不管老钱对不对,老钱发起这个讨论,大家来关心美国的前途,是个好事。
“与其看老太太发狂,还不如来争吵欧巴马和罗姆尼的事吧。“
对!这才叫本末倒置。
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发表于 2012-10-15 14:06:08 | 显示全部楼层
引用第52楼游客于2012-10-15 13:59发表的  :
不管老钱对不对,老钱发起这个讨论,大家来关心美国的前途,是个好事。
“与其看老太太发狂,还不如来争吵欧巴马和罗姆尼的事吧。“
对!这才叫本末倒置。
拜托别把这些烂文章翻出来了,建议老钱像喇叭花学习学习再写文章。这文章没法看一点价值都没有。只能挑起无端的矛盾。
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